In the wake of news that Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior advisor, had been downgraded from his top-secret security clearance, we take an in-depth look at the security clearance process on the latest episode of the legal-affairs podcast Lawyer 2 Lawyer. What are they levels of security clearances? How are security clearances granted and revoked? What are the rights of someone whose clearance is revoked or denied?

For answers to these questions and more, we turn to two experts:

  • Bradley P. Moss, partner in the Washington, D.C., Law Office of Mark S. Zaid, and a specialist in litigation on matters relating to national security, federal employment and security clearance law, and the Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act.
  • Evan H. Lesser, co-founder and president of, a jobs site for those who have national security clearances. Before founding ClearanceJobs, Lesser managed technical projects with CACI for the U.S. Navy’s Science and Technology directorate at the Pentagon, and for the Joint Technology Panel on Electronic Warfare.

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Bob is a lawyer, veteran legal journalist, and award-winning blogger and podcaster. In 2011, he was named to the inaugural Fastcase 50, honoring “the law’s smartest, most courageous innovators, techies, visionaries and leaders.” Earlier in his career, he was editor-in-chief of several legal publications, including The National Law Journal, and editorial director of ALM’s Litigation Services Division.